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David

Just got the same letter from Millennium Marketing Group, LTD. Thank you let me know about these news. I shall be doing the right way.

J

Thank you..we received a letter today from them,any info on where to get sucessfull help on marketing your invention?

david pobuda

thank you we almost went there any suggestions

Chu Galatea Huynh

Simply you guys are my angels. just save me a lot of money and not to waste my time with these people. I got their letter today.
So the next step is this. How can we all get together to help inventor to be successful. I feel your pain.
Any Idea? I been successful with one of my patent 6 years ago by taking it to the market myself but now I have not be able to find or feel comfortable with all the mails I got regarding my new patent. I am so sorry our world have come to this. I wish to make a lot more money and find way to help you guy in the future.
I am Chi Galatea Huynh at www.galateause.com
thank you so much for all of your post.
Happy day
chi

Kathryn Deline

Leland, be aware of those people you liked. I was considering doing business with one of the gentlemen, Kenny Durham, who claim to be an old partner of MMG but never was if you contact them and do your research like any good inventor should. He runs Innovators Warehouse and doesn't disclose his past information other than to pretend like they are just another competitive company and pretending to be the good guy giving "warnings" slamming them.

At the end of the day not everyone is always going to be 100% happy and it is good there are sites out there like this to inform inventors on what to be cautious of and if nothing else to spark questions from both sides. Someone else has posted a link to the new court case with the ripoff report if you google the new company I mentioned. To make matters worse the past employee went on bragging about how he did breach his contract and thinks this makes him look better? It led me to this very site. When it all comes down to it he thinks he is simply being sued for a non compete and wants people to disclose their own ideas to him? I don't think so.

Joe Froese

I just got a letter from Millennium and have numerous unopened letters from Kessler. My patent is 6 months old, and they say it is "Imperitive that you pursue commercialization of your intellectual property immidiately." I am Canaidan, already have 2 copy cats on my US patent here in Canada. The one copy cat was my manufacturer, the other, a close colleague. These were people I did business with, confided in. Now this millenium marketing group is after me. My product is already on the market, I know these guys have not done their research because they would see companies that are already producing my parts that are covered by my Patents. So that alone was my flag, Red Flag. Thanks fellow inventors for going public. I have been told many times that my greatest weakness in business is that I trust too much. Is this a common "trademark" of inventors and does someone have our "numbers." Thanks guys, the old saying united we stand (not alone) holds true.

RamonGustav

Congratulations! You have so much useful information, write more.

Leland Henderson

If you don't want to feel and look like a fool.Then never go with any of these kind of company's They only want to get your money with the least amount of effort..I did it and I never felt so stupid to trust a person like Scoot Norman.. This guy should be in Prison...
At this time the people I delt with in the first place are not even working for MMG any more.....(I think they got tired of lieing to people) SAVE YOUR MONEY....................

Grahame Tylor

Have a great invention proven and tested,full patents in many countries.Need seccessfull marketer
not scammers;cheap to manufacture world wide application

Any true help much appreciated

Public Record

09/09/2009 NEW CASE FILED; RS BICKFORD & COMPANY INC VS MILLENNIUM MARKETING GROUP LTD SCOTT NORMAN STEPHANIE NORMAN; FILING FEE 67.00 , SHERIFF SERVICE 5.00; PAID BY MCDOWELL RICE SMITH & BUCHANAN, Receipted Amount: $72.00 , Check No: 21360, Receipt NO: 09034603

http://www.jococourts.org/index.aspx

Type in Scott's name and click search.

Louis Davenport

p.s. Here is the link to the complaint filed with the BBB:


http://67.53.161.126/complaint//view/99250049/c/ezntpm

Louis Davenport

Happy New Year!

I'm trying to remain optimistic despite being the latest to fall victim to Millennium's smooth talk and dream-weaving. Everyone told me not to do it... I did it. The desire to fulfill a dream is just so strong. I have a year's worth of information to share with anyone interested. In the mean time I'll just paste the BBB complaint I've filed.

opnevadl@gmail.com

p.s. Mr Blum, you dodged a bullet!

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Millennium Marketing portrays itself as a company that has scoured and researched the myriad newly patented products to come up with a select few patents which they deem have a reasonable chance of being successfully marketed by their company. They contact the patent owner expressing a specific interest in the patented product and indicate their desire to help deliver the product to the market. They don’t disguise their willingness to invest over $7000 of their own finances because they believe the product has significant potential to be licensed and they will receive the return on their investment through negotiated contracts with potential licensees. The implication is that they will produce a customized “Media Kit” which they will then specifically and personally promote to potential clients found using a search through their proprietary database. They will then pursue these potential clients promoting the product and ultimately negotiating a contract for the patent owner to consider. They quote a 2008-2009 success rate of 8-10% with revenues in the millions of dollars.

In addition to the $10,000 in legal fees, I have paid Millennium $8,000 for these services already and terminated my $15,000 agreement with them after slowly coming to the realization that the above description is likely quite far from reality. After 1 year of looking into Millennium’s practices, my new perception is that they are a small company who take advantage of the ignorance that most American inventors have about patenting and marketing new inventions. At the same time they encourage the inventor with ideas of grandeur and smoothly convince them that, “If MMG can’t secure a placement, no one can!”. My perception is that, in reality, Millennium mass mails inventors of newly patented products. Their pretense at “evaluating the potential of the product” and then “approving” it through their selective process is a farce. The “Media Kit” that they develop is a template populated almost exclusively with material and information supplied by the inventor, who’s job it is to review and correct it. The information supplied by Millennium for the “Media Kit” is misleading at best and may be entirely factitious. The trade shows attended are comprised of vendors trying to sell other such products, not the companies interested in purchasing and marketing them. The list of clients from their proprietary database is mostly inappropriate (demonstrated by a quick web search indicating clients that have nothing to do with such a product, and then written correspondence from these clients indicating the same). The media kit may be mass e-mailed out to secretaries and underlings, but is almost certainly not connected to anyone who would know anything about the product. Millenniums very scant details of the expenses they are incurring are laudable. It must be that there have been at least 3 occasions where contracts have actually been made; but my guess is that this was related more to the inventor and their product that the fortunate stumbling of Millennium. Millennium talks a good talk, but as others have warned, they don’t walk the long walk. And in the end, Millennium says, “We did everything that could be expected; produced a media kit, promoted your product at trade shows, researched and personally contacted targeted companies, and ultimately no one is interested in your product.” It is my belief that Millennium not only neglects to fulfill their product obligation technically and legally, they certainly miss the implied intent of their service they are promoting.

WALTER E.BLUM

HI GEORGE,
I WAS 2 MINUTES AWAY FROM FORWARDING A PATENT PENDING PRODUCT TO MILLENIUM WHEN I READ YOUR ABOVE BLOG. NATURALLY I WILL NOTIFY HIM OF MY RELUCTANCE TO PROCEED WITH MILLENIUM. THANKS FOR YOUR EFFORTS TO INFORM THE WORLD OF INVENTORS THAT HE EXISTS IN THAT FORM.

IF HAVE HAD A SIMILAR EXPERIENCE WITH ANOTHER SUCH PROMOTER WHO AFTER TWO YEARS PRODUCED NOTHING. NOT EVEN A RETURN PHONE CALL. THIS WAS A DIFFERENT PRODUCT. EACH OF OUR PRODUCTS ARE EXTREMELY VIABLE AND WITH A PROPER PROMOTER WILL BE SUCCESSFUL.

CAN YOU RECOMMEND ANY?

WALTER E.BLUM

DESDEV@VERIZON. NET

Walt Bujaryn

John: Once you have given your money to Scott Norman it is extremely difficult to get it back. One of the main points of this blog is to get people to think three times before giving money to Norman or ANY invention promoter, and to never, ever pay for any service before it has been rendered.

You do, however, have a few options. First, simply contact Norman in writing or verbally and ask for your money back. He has been known to refund money when the hassle factor looms too large. You MUST do this in conjunction with filing a detailed complaint at the Better Business Bureau http://www.kansascity.bbb.org/.

Next, you can hire an attorney to review your case and read this blog. Have the attorney write Norman a letter. Unfortunately your legal options are limited because you can't sue Norman under the AIPA, which would be a slam dunk. Anything else will yield nothing other than a very expensive moral victory, and believe me, Norman knows all of this, has his (your) money well hidden and won't care.

Finally, you can file a detailed complaint with the Kansas Attorney General, http://www.ksag.org/content/page/id/39, citing the relevant portions of this blog. If the AG finally comes to comprehend what Norman is actually doing they may take action. This could be quite important, and then again it may yield nothing.

It is also important for you to post your experiences online. I will post your story here, and it should be posted at the Inventblog, where a discussion about Norman and MMG has been initiated. Make sure Norman knows you are going to do this. He despises publicity and certainly doesn't want more negative comments than he now has. Click on my name above under "Who Am I" above to email me if you want. Good luck.

John F. Maselter

I have given Scott Norman $4500.00 of my money. He has perpetrated a fraud on me. How can I get my money back?

Walt Bujaryn

John Brodowski's comment about his experience with MMG is interesting for a couple of reasons. First, MMG is apparently now charging $7500 for "services" that carried a price tag of $6000 during my experience with them. Second, MMG is offering these "services" without making it clear -- remember MMG does not disclose under AIPA -- that, based upon a ratio of contracts sold to income returned to the inventor, a purchaser of one of its "contracts" stands almost no chance of recovering his or her investment.

Bear in mind that MMG will NOT provide a detailed and documented accounting of how your $7500 will be or has been spent. Figure that around 20% of that money goes to the salesman who is pursuing you. Beyond that there are no time cards, no verifiable documentation of who performed what service, no tracking of postage, printing, nothing. You have to take Scott Norman's word for everything, and this is a very, very bad idea.

Norman's assertion that MMG had expended a "great deal of work" on John's behalf is similar to statements he made to me which were completely false. MMG never, repeat, never, performed any useful work on my behalf before, during or after my contractual obligation with them. All they did was take my money and make it disappear. Unless Norman can document for you IN WRITING any useful work performed on your behalf you can assume that all those "efforts" MMG is expending toward you are simply to relieve you of your money.

My advice remains the same: Do not have anything whatsoever to do with Scott Norman or MMG, and, above all, NEVER sign a document that associates you with, or obligates you in any way, to Scott Norman.

John Brodowski

Shortly after my patent was granted by US PTO, I have received a letter from Millenium.
Being curious, I have agreed to fill out their questioner.
After submitting the questioner to the Millenium I have received "Patent Marketing Agreement".
One of the paragraphs in that agreement is titled Expense and requires the sum of $7,500 to cover
Milleniums` expenses associated with the marketing efforts on my behave.

After reading the "Agreement", I have immediately notified Millenium that I am not interested.

Since my rejection of that Agreement, I have received several telephone calls and additional copy of
the Agreement.
I was told by Scott Norman in one of those telephone calls that Millenium expanded a great deal of
work on my behave and therefore I should sign the Agreement.
I have never authorize anyone to perform any work on my behave, never signed any kind of authorization
to do so.
Milleniums persistence is an unabashed harassment which borders on extortion.

vincent cicero

Can you tell me about reputable licensing people.

vincent cicero

Can you tell me about reputable licensing people.

vincent cicero

A lot of this information is regarding the scam part of the licensing business. Is there information on Reputable people to deal with.

George H. Morgan, Professional Engineer, Patent Agent

I have quite a stack of unopened correspondence from MMG & others, indluding IP&R and Kessler and others. If you have a patent awarded, they routinely mail you the same letters everyone else gets. Sometimes they follow up with a sales call. I save the letters, so when a client gets excited about how someone wants to sell their product, I can usually pull a letter out of that file, tell him what is in it, and have him open the envelope.

My advice is to do it yourself. Or, next best, contact a member of teh Licensing Society of Canada and the United States. I know one member, Don Kelley, who is also a patent agent and can be located through the listing of registered patent practioners at the www.uspto.gov site.

Hope that helps.

Best wishes to all the fellow inventors.

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